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Web activists beat TV industry

OUT-LAW Radio, 28/06/2007

We hear about the web activism campaign that changed WIPO policy, and talk to a publishing exec who took the law temporarily into his own hands.


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This transcript is for anyone with a hearing impairment or who for any other reason cannot listen to the MP3 audio file.

The following is the text spoken by OUT-LAW journalist Matthew Magee.


Hello and welcome back to OUT-LAW Radio; we are refreshed after our little break, and hope you are too, and are ready to hear all about the constantly shifting world of technology law.

Every week we try to help you to make sense of the twisty, turning tech law world with the best news and features in town, and some expert analysis along the way.

My name is Matthew Magee, and this week we talk to a campaigner who took on the sprawling World Intellectual Property Organisation and beat the might of nations, and we talk also to a publishing executive who took the law in to his own hands in a spat with Google.

But first, the news:


  • First round of copyright bout ends in stalemate; and
  • MP’s slam freedom of information changes.

The first stage in the first copyright infringement suit against video sharing giant YouTube has ended in stalemate. Both sides in the fight applied for an initial judgment against the other, but neither was granted and the case will now proceed further.

Journalist and helicopter pilot Robert Tur's case is the first copyright case against YouTube to reach the court. Tur is the owner of news footage of dramatic events such as a car chase involving OJ Simpson and the 1992 Los Angeles riots. He sued YouTube because users had posted and viewed some of his footage on the site.

Both sides in the case wanted Judge Florence-Marie Cooper of the US District Court for the Central District of California to rule in their favour with a summary judgment. Judge Cooper rejected those applications and the case will proceed to the next stage of the trial.

The Government's plans to limit requests under the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act should be blocked, according to a parliamentary committee. It also said that watchdog the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) should be better funded.

The constitutional affairs select committee said that government plans to limit FOI requests did not adequately balance the costs and the public's rights to know about public bodies. It said that the proposed limitations would not be transparent or accountable to the public.

Last year the Government proposed restricting public and media access to information by cutting requests which were complex or took large amounts of time to fulfil.

The Government published its plans last December, but the outcry which followed forced it to begin a supplementary consultation process which threw doubt on the plans. The committee's report could further weaken the Government case for change.

That was this week's OUT-LAW news.


It was a battle many wrote off as being long lost over an issue only a few hardcore lobbyists and backroom bureaucrats really understood. But in the end an obscure meeting of a World Intellectual Property Organisation committee last week provided the stage for something of a coup, as the massed ranks of the world's bloggers and podcasters thwarted the governments of the world and their plan to create a whole new intellectual property right.

It was a complicated struggle over legalistic minutiae, but campaigners and activists believed the stakes were high and the implications simple. WIPO wanted to give broadcasters new rights over the content that they showed. To do so would have eroded the rights and control that content creators had over their work, said opponents.

One of the strongest opposing voices in the dispute was that of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights activism group. Its international affairs director Gwen Hinze was camped out at the WIPO meeting. She told us about the opposition to the plans.

Hinze: If you create a new layer of rights that sit on top of copyright from a consumer’s point of view that raises issues about access to information so information that might be in the public domain as a matter of copyright law, so under copyright law would be, you would have the ability to access that information also the ability to access information that you would be permitted to use under copyright law. So for instance where there are exceptions and limitations that would allow consumers, educators, libraries, researchers to access information those same exceptions and limitations would not apply with these new layer of rights and so that raises some concerns about access to knowledge.

WIPO was in the very last stages of finalising its plan to create a new right for broadcasters over the content they show. Designed to help protect against television piracy, the right was broad ranging and not subject to the exemptions and exceptions that in copyright law guarantee access to material for educational purposes, fair use or by disabled users. Podcasters feared that the new rule will extend rights to their material, while concerns reached into the heard of the industry: consumer electronics companies feared that technological protection measures would give broadcasters a lock on TV recording equipment, while telecoms carriers feared it would open them up to new liabilities for relaying content.

Hinze: Many people would be affected by the new treaty. The way it was formulated was extremely broad. I think once people understood the suite of issues that were involved with creating an exclusive, a new set of exclusive rights that would sit over the top of copyright law, and once people understood the breadth of the technological protection measure and the implication that would have for technology innovation for freedom of expression on the internet and also for competition policy it was natural for the technology industry to have consensus over this and likewise the internet intermediary industry.

Likewise from the grass roots point of view it makes perfect sense for the podcasters to be concerned about the impact of the treaty's rights on their ability to continue what they're doing lawfully under national copyright systems. As you know podcasters already face huge hurdles in getting rights clearances and this layer would add more complexity on top of that.

There is another way that broadcasters' rights can be protected. Called the signal based approach, it is the same kind of protection that a 1970s satellite television agreement created. This could guard TV signals and keep podcasters and rights owners happy. The broadcasters rejected it out of hand.

Hinze: There is quite a significant body of people who have joined together and would support a signal based approach to a treaty. So for instance in January there was a joint statement from a number of civil society groups a number of tech companies and a number of library representatives all in support of a signal based approach so giving broad casters and cable casters protection for the legitimate protection of their signals but not creating the exclusive rights approach that would have the set of unintended consequences that I have just raised.

What actually happened last week is complicated, but the result is simple. The copyright committee was to recommend that its proposal proceed to the next stage at which WIPO would ratify it. Instead, due to pressure by activists and industry, the proposal was sent back to the drawing board, from which it may never return.

WIPO decisions are made behind closed doors by national governments, but Hinze and others marshalled a formidable force of diverse interests that managed to influence enough governments to change WIPO's direction.

Hinze: All the major technology industry players came together in a very unprecedented move and put forward a joint statement to WIPO expressing our concerns with the current formulation and expressing support for a more limited and narrower focus. I am honoured that we were able to present an open letter to WIPO with over fifteen hundred podcasters names on it. Podcasters have not had a voice at these negotiations at all so I was honoured to play that role and to be able to give the internet community a voice where they did not have one before.

Maybe this was just a tussle over a legal nicety. But maybe it was something more. granted, major industrial forces such as Intel stood side by side with campaigners and no doubt had an effect, but this could still be seen in times to come as the point at which online activism stood up to the big boys and won.

Hinze: What I would like to do is say thank you to the people who took an active interest in understanding what seems like an obscure issue happening in the marble halls of Geneva. It is not, these treaties are not self executing in countries’ laws but they do create an international precedent that could have, if they had been adopted in the form last week, could have stifled internet innovation and could have stifled freedom of expression.


It was as close to a radical protest stunt that the book world is likely to see for sometime. Livening up the normally sedate worlds of technology law and publishing rights negotiations, Richard Charkin took the law into his own hands. The Chief Executive of Macmillan Publishing illustrated a point about Google's rights grabs through the unconventional medium of stealing their computers. He explained himself to the never-more-aptly named OUT-LAW. His story begins at Book Expo America which took place recently in New York.

Charkin: We were passing the Google stand it had a lot of laptops on it and wondered whether, if we were to pick one up, there was no sign saying ‘please do not steal our laptops’ whether this was a nice parallel in the physical world of an intellectual property issue. So we just picked up two and did not take them off the stand we just walked to the other side of the stand and waited and about an hour and a half later someone noticed and came over and we said here have your laptops back and the reason we have done it is to show the difference between opting in and opting out.

So what on earth was it all about? Well, the key here is Charkin's comment about there being no sign saying “please don't steal our laptops”. The publishing world is hot with indignation about a Google plan to digitise the world's books and put them on its Google library service without actually asking the authors or publishers first. They can opt out of the service, but any who do not specifically ask to be excluded will have their works digitised. Charkin embarked on some ad hoc satire.

Charkin: I was with a colleague we were walking past the Google stand and we had been discussing the issue of opting in or opting out on copyright and Google’s position on the Google library project whereby they are maintaining that they have the right to digitise a book and have it available in the library without clearing permission from the copyright owner or controller but that the copyright owner can write to them and say please do not digitise this book and they will not do so and indeed if they have digitised the book and they are asked to take it down they will do so as well. That is the view of most people an inversion of copyright in that basically you cannot do something with someone else’s copyright without prior clearing permission beforehand.

Charkin's stateside protest might have been impishly playful, but he says it highlights a serious issue.

Charkin: If you were a textbook author and you had an adoption in a university of shall we say one hundred copies a year and lets say the royalties on those copies was one pound so you were earning one hundred pounds a year and this was a book which was digitised and if Google have done it without clearing permission you the author have lost one hundred pounds and that is the issue. It is a breach of copyright in our view from the author’s point of view which is what I think I am representing that is, you know, a sort of hijack of intellectual property.


That's all we have time for this week, thanks for listening.

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OUT-LAW Radio was produced and presented by Matthew Magee for international law firm Pinsent Masons

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