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Second Life's first IP fight

OUT-LAW Radio, 12/07/2007

We talk to the lawyer taking on the first copyright spat to hit virtual world Second Life, and we hear why your boss might own your Facebook profile.


A text transcription follows.

This transcript is for anyone with a hearing impairment or who for any other reason cannot listen to the MP3 audio file.

The following is the text spoken by OUT-LAW journalist Matthew Magee.


Hello and welcome to OUT-LAW Radio, the weekly podcast that keeps you up to date on all the twists and turns in the world of technology law.

Every week we bring you the latest news and in depth features that help you to make sense of the ever-changing laws that govern technology today.

My name is Matthew Magee, and this week we talk to the lawyer fighting Second Life's first virtual copyright case, and we reveal that your boss could own your Facebook profile.

But first, the news:


  • Privacy chief slams company data breaches; and
  • three jailed over internet terror calls

The Government and some of Britain's largest companies are guilty of "careless and inexcusable" data security lapses leading to serious breaches of privacy, the Information Commissioner has said.

In an impassioned attack on the failure of large organisations to take data protection seriously enough, the Commissioner, Richard Thomas, said that big business and government departments were not living up to their responsibilities.

Thomas said that over the past year he has seen far too many "careless and inexcusable" breaches of people’s personal information. He said that the roll call of banks, retailers, government departments, public bodies and other organisations which have admitted serious security lapses is frankly horrifying.

Thomas said that chief executives must take data protection and the privacy of customers and employees more seriously.

Three men have been jailed for their use of the internet to incite terrorism. The three were convicted after entering a late change of plea to 'guilty' early last week.

Younes Tsouli, Waseem Mughal and Tariq Al-Daour were convicted at Woolwich Crown Court and have been sentenced to a combined 24 years in prison in a trial which began in April. The three men initially pleaded 'not guilty' but changed that plea two months into their court case.

It is illegal to operate websites inciting terrorism under the Terrorism Act. That law extends to websites hosted abroad.

That was this week's OUT-LAW news


What do you do if someone steals your bed? Well, call the police of course. But what do you do if someone steals 50 of your beds? What if you actually know the thief's name, but nothing else about him? What if the beds are nothing more than pieces of software?

These are just some of the questions facing Kevin Alderman, an entrepreneur in virtual universe and all round media phenomenon, Second Life.

Alderman gave up his job as a plumber to chase a dream of making his fortune in the alternative economy of Second Life.

This is an online virtual world created by a company called Linden Labs which recently caught the imagination of the mainstream. It has its own money which you can buy with US dollars, but that currency can be changed back into dollars at a fixed exchange rate.

With his company Eros LLC, Alderman set about building virtual sex products such as his Sexgen bed, which allows Second Life users to have sex with each other in the game. It costs 12,000 Linden dollars, about US$46.

Accessories such as this are usually copy protected and sold for money, but Alderman soon found that someone else was selling similar beds for far less than he was charging, and a lawsuit followed. Alderman's lawyer is Francis Taney of Buchanan, Ingersoll and Rooney in the US. His has the job of conducting what is probably the first copyright lawsuit based entirely on actions in a virtual world.

Taney: He discovered that someone had found some kind of technical exploit that enabled this person to make copies of Kevin's objects and that this person was making the copies and passing them off as copies made by Kevin's company using Kevin's mark, the SexGen mark, and was selling them at a bargain basement price undercutting Kevin and taking his sales. As you might imagine this could be a real threat to his sales and his business so that is why we brought we suit.

Taney has filed a copyright and trade mark violation law suit against the person whom he says has copied the beds, a Second Life character called Volkov Catteneo. Needless to say, that is probably not his real name. Taney has to chase Linden Labs, the company behind Second Life, and Paypal, the payment company, for more information about Catteneo.

Taney: Simultaneously with the filing of the complaint we filed a motion with the court asking for leave to issue subpoenas. We asked the court for leave to do that, we explained that it was necessary to make the law suit go forward. Last Thursday the judge granted that motion. We have serve subpoenas on Linden Research Incorporated in San Francisco and Paypal Incorporated in San Jose. We have asked them all the personal identifying information that they have with respect to this person and in Linden's case also the complete records of his online activity because that will get right to the heart of what was done here.

Linden Labs told us, "We support the rights of copyright holders to protect their copyrighted works in Second Life. We have received the subpoena for information relevant to the case and are reviewing it."

This is almost certainly the first time that an intellectual property case like this has been fought in regard to a virtual world. Taney says that Catteneo broke both the law of the US and the terms and conditions set out by Linden Labs. He says that the case is not fundamentally changed by the fact that the beds are made of computer code, not wood and springs.

Taney: It is a little bit more exotic. At the bottom of it, it is an internet hosted computer simulation so I don't see it as a monumental stretch or much of a stretch at all.

The legal basis of the case may not change just because the incidents took place in Second Life, but the practicalities of it certainly do. Catteneo has boasted to reporters that he is untraceable, that he will not be found. Is Taney confident that he can track his man down?

Taney: I'm not necessarily sure I want to believe anything this person says at this point. I am optimistic. Time will tell and pretty soon that we understand he's used bank accounts and with some sleuthing I think we'll be able to find him.

This is not a multi-million dollar suit that claims massive losses. Alderman is seeking three times Catteneo's damages or his own losses, whichever is greater, which could be as little as $2,000. It is not just about the money, though, says Taney.

Taney: That's not the point. We are also seeking injunctive relief. We want a court order stopping him, not just his avatar because you can have alternative accounts and all that stuff, the real person from ever this again and so that's an important part of the relief we're seeking. I don't think he's trying to win the lottery here.

The case throws a bright light on the sudden, exploding world of Second Life commerce. Alderman employs 12 people and, says Taney, just wants to be able to make his living in the shiny new Second Life world.

Taney: This guy, he was a plumbing contractor and he gave up that business because he was excited about this thing. He has some ability in this area. He's making his living doing it and it's just not right.


Social networking has hit fever pitch amongst the, well, the more seasoned internet surfer. As Facebook attracts professionals in their 20s and 30s in much the same way as Myspace and Bebo cut a dash through teenagers' lives last year, it raises some slightly different questions.

There are fewer worries about libelling your teacher, for example, and more about what impact it could have on working life. Because the professions rely on networking and many of the contacts people make on sites will be work associates, it turns out that employers could stake a claim to ownership of your social networking profile.

Here's intellectual property law expert Catrin Turner, from Pinsent Masons, the law firm behind OUT-LAW, with the shocking news.

Turner: If a social networking site is used as a place to hold any information which relates to employment, if that information was prepared in the course of your employment you are dealing with company property. If they can argue that you've created something and it's in the course of your employment, it's irrelevant where it's stored, because the law doesn't look at where it's stored, the law looks at the circumstances in which it was created. So if you created a contact list or created any sort of document, for example, during working hours using your work PC it relates that in some ways to your job or it would be valley to your employer. They would have a very strong argument that belongs to them.

The news is likely to surprise many social networking users who will assume that the sites exist entirely in the personal sphere. But for anyone whose work and personal lives intertwine or for the growing number of people who use such sites to make and keep work contacts, there are serious implications to consider. Turner said that the issue is becoming more pertinent as the use of the sites changes.

Turner: At the moment I don't think there's anything of sufficient business quality on these sites that a employer's going to get terribly excited about ownership, that's not to say that won't develop, and if these networking sites become more sophisticated I'm sure it will become much more of a business usage, but at the moment I think the employers are sitting pretty because they can say if you created it in the course employment it belongs to us anyway. So I think at the moment everyone is seeing these sites as something which is extracurricular albeit that a lot of people visit these sites during working hours, I think there is a lack of appreciation by people using these sites and what they put on these sites could affect their relationship with their employer.

What is equally surprising is that this is likely to be the case whether or not it is mentioned in an employer's email and internet usage policy. Turner says users do not need forewarning that their Facebook, Myspace and Bebo identities could belong to the boss.

Turner: The basic law is that if you create copyright material and that's in the course of your employment then the assumption is that belongs to your employer. So that doesn't have to be written down by the employer. That is the position that will apply unless something else is agreed.


That's all we have time for this week, thanks for listening.

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OUT-LAW Radio was produced and presented by Matthew Magee for international law firm Pinsent Masons

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