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Why limitless domains will anger big brands

OUT-LAW Radio, 03/07/2008

We look at the disastrous impact on big brands of ICANN's decision to allow any internet domain to be registered, and we explain why the EU wants more returns on university research


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Hello and welcome to OUT-LAW radio, the weekly podcast that keeps you up to date on all the twists and turns in the world of technology law.

Every week we bring you the latest news and in depth features that help you to make sense of the ever changing laws that govern technology today.

My name is Matthew Magee, and this week we ask: what does the planned explosion in the number of possible internet addresses mean for brand holders? And we find the European Commission ordering European universities to be more like British ones when it comes to making money out of academia.

But first, the news:

eBay pays out millions for fake handbag sales

and

UK wiretaps were illegal, says human rights court

Online auction site eBay has been fined £31.5 million and ordered to forbid the sale of some luxury perfumes in a French court order designed to battle the sale of counterfeit luxury goods.
Handbag, clothing and perfume company Louis Vuitton Moët Hennessy sued eBay in the French courts, claiming that the company did not do enough to combat the sale of counterfeit goods.
eBay claims that it cannot police all the sales through its site and that it makes no guarantee that goods are genuine, and that it suspends counterfeit auctions when notified of them.
The French court, though, found "serious faults" in eBay's processes that led to auctions of counterfeit goods going ahead. By allowing the sales, it said, eBay had damaged the reputation of luxury brands such as Louis Vuitton and Christian Dior.
eBay said that it would appeal the verdict.

The UK Government's surveillance practices violate the privacy rights of UK and foreign citizens, the European Court of Human Rights has ruled. The judgment follows a nine year battle over phone and internet taps.
The Court found that the UK's wide and secretive surveillance laws are "not in accordance with the law" and that they violate the right to privacy guaranteed by the European Convention on Human Rights.
Civil liberties groups Liberty and the Irish Council for Civil Liberties took the UK Government to the Court over allegations that their communications had been intercepted between 1990 and 1997.
The groups said that interceptions of legally privileged and confidential information took place, and that they had complained unsuccessfully to UK courts, the Interception of Communications Tribunal, the Director of Public Prosecutions and the Investigatory Powers Tribunal.
The Court recognised that the regulation of surveillance had to have an element of secrecy about it, but said that the UK did not offer citizens enough information about how much surveillance was taking place.

That was this week's OUT-LAW news.



The internet's brief history is littered with people paying ludicrous sums for internet addresses: seven million dollars for beer.com, seven and a half for business.com. the payouts had a degree of logic: there is only one beer.com, and scarce resources attract high prices.

That is: until last week, when the body that runs the internet's addressing system made probably the biggest change it has ever made.

ICANN has decided that there should be no limit to the number or makeup of top level domains. TLDs are the bits that come after the dot: the com in .com, the UK in .co.uk.

All of a sudden companies will be able to get their brands as top level domains, surely a massive marketing bonus. Well it seems not as, as e commerce law expert Struan Robertson of Pinsent Masons, the law firm behind OUT LAW, explains.

First, though, he outlined the changes.

Struan Robertson: To begin with, you could only buy the domain names with endings .com, .org, .net. There were a few other top level domain names but it has always been a finite number and ICANN has decided just to make that an infinite number of domain names. They are taking applications from anyone who wants to start their own top level domain. So you could have .shop and you can re sell domain names ending .shop.

So on the one hand this gives brand owners the chance to showcase their goods at their very own domain. On the other hand, said Robertson, it will give brand owners a massive, expensive headache.

Struan Robertson: It is a massive change and it is a change that is going to be an absolute nightmare for anyone that tries to defensively protect their brand. If you are a brand owner what you often do is, to avoid the cost of going after cyber squatters which is pretty expensive, you register domain names that match your own brand and you do that in all the top level domains. So when .you came out we saw people registering their brand with an .eu extension. They did not actually want it; they just wanted to make sure that nobody else got it.

The problem, he said, is not likely to be people trying to register your brand as an actual top level domain. It is likely to be more widespread and expensive than that.

Struan Robertson: The cost is likely to be a barrier to cyber squatting on the top level domain. I do not think what we are going to see is somebody trying to buy elastoplast as a top level domain other than the company with the right to the name. What we might see though is that for example, somebody might have a top level domain for .medicine and then re-sell that top level domain so that anyone can register elastoplast.medicine or any number of variations of it. And that is where the challenge comes for that brand holder. The person trying to protect the name elastoplast feels compelled to snap it up as a name.

To buy up all those domains would push companies' current domain defence policies to their limits, Robertson said.

Struan Robertson: Companies are going to have a choice. They are going to have to decide how far they go. They will already have domain name portfolios. The question is how big does that portfolio become and how big can they afford for it to become? If we end up with hundreds of different top level domain extensions there is a limit to just how many domain names a company can justify snapping up to avoid cyber squatters getting them. And so they will be keeping an eye on it but ultimately I think they will be looking at this as a really bad move by ICANN and something that is just going to give their whole brand protection business just - it is just going to be chaos.

ICANN believes it is helping people have more choice about their internet addresses, but it looks as though for businesses, the change couldn't be worse.



It is no longer enough in academia to come up with a theorem you can name after yourself or get a couple of articles into nature magazine. Technology transfer is everything or would be in Europe if we were any good at it. The European Commission has told universities to smarten up their act and turn more of their thinking into marketable inventions.

Chris Martin of Pinsent Masons, the law firm behind OUT-LAW, is an expert in technology transfer from the academic to the commercial world. He says the Commission needn't worry about Britain, which has long learned the commercialising lessons of US universities. In fact, he says, the Commission is ordering the rest of Europe to be more like us.

Chris Martin: The US have been doing this longer than anyone else and they have quite a sophisticated approach to knowledge transfer but the UK is not really that far behind in terms of the professionalisation of that sector. So I think the Commission is really looking for some of the other countries in Europe to adopt similar approach as happens in the UK. What they are saying actually reflects what happens in practice in the UK in most cases. There are very few of the recommendations which do not reflect what a well run research intensive university in the UK is doing already.

So what does the UK do that the Commission wants replicated across the continent? They want clarity about who owns any commercialised intellectual property, they want proper analysis and reporting of attempts to commercialise and the results, and they want the kind of professionalisation of the process that is common in the UK and the US.

Martin said that it is no surprise that the Commission wants to encourage the creation of valuable intellectual property out of academic research.

Chris Martin: The bottom line is Europe directly through say the framework research and development programmes, Framework 7 we're on now, and indirectly monies which go through national governments, fund a huge amount of R&D. So they are a massive funder of research and development. And that is because they see the knowledge economy, the development of a knowledge economy and information society as key to the success of the European Union moving forward. So the Commission put all this money in and I think what they are saying is that what is coming out, the outputs of that in terms of say socio economic benefit do not necessarily justify the investment.

But before anyone gets het up about the debasing of admirable academic ideals, Martin says that this is not a crass money making exercise, but that the process of commercialisation is valuable because of the wider benefits it brings to an academic, a department, a university and even a local economy.

Chris Martin: But it is not really a money making exercise in its true sense. The financial terms are often low. In most cases in fact it will be less than the investment that the institute puts into those knowledge transfer activities. The real key driver is the socio economic benefits so basically getting the technology out of the lab and into the wider world to do good in the wider world. And clearly that can have impacts in terms of the local economy as well with regard to the relevant research institution. So it creates jobs. It can aid in prosperity and so forth.



That's all we have time for this week, thanks for listening.

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OUT-LAW Radio was produced and presented by Matthew Magee for international law firm Pinsent Masons.

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